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The term odds is used in many different ways in any discussion of
proper tactics in poker. They are also depicted in many way, but
no matter how you say it are how you depict it you are still talking
about one thing, MATH or more precisely fractions and
percentages. Some people are lucky enough to have the talent of
doing it in their head, but for many it can be a significant problem to
do it on paper, much more so quickly in their head while under some
pressure Taking out a calculator at the table is consider
rather rude, and inappropriate. Even online All of the only one of
the available poker aides calculate the pot odds for you, Poker
Office. I have actually use my contacts, through 5th Street
Magazine to contact several publishers to suggest that they add pot odds
to their application. For the odds of making your hand, especially
in Hold'em it is quite a bit simpler since the odds never change simply
get a good chart and memorize them. (Download Here.) In Stud we
are back to mental calculations, but they aren't that difficult
The discussion is even further complicated by listing odds in several
different ways. The can be listed as a percentage chance of
completing your hand, like 20%. They can be listed as 1 chance in
5, (1/5). They can be listed as a 1 to 4, (1:4) chance of
completing or a 4:1 against. None of these take into account that
you might make your hand but still lose to a better hand. Too many
discussions flip back and forth using all of these conventions.
We'll try to stay to one constant. The chances of completing your
hand, 1:4. When discussing pot odds we will also use the bet size
to the pot size. This way you can make a direct comparison.
Using the example above if the pot odds are greater than 1:4 say 1:5, we
call. If they are less, 1:3 then we suggest folding. Now since
many others articles switch back an forth.
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and more we see the chances of making your hand depicted as a
percentage. since Pot Odds normally show up as "total
pot" to "bet." Since it is easier to convert the
percentage let's do that.
odds="percentage chance of success" to "percentage
chance of failure"
So in the example above the odds would be 20% to 80% we
can quickly covert that by dividing by 20% (20%/20%) to
(80%/20%) or 1:4
Another example: 15% chance of making our hand is 15%:85%
or (15%/15%):(85%/15%) or 1:5.6
Or since the odds never change in Hold'em here are some common
conversions. Odds are rounded down to the
nearest half. I have provided only the odds one card for a
reason that should become clear later.
| Outs |
Hand on Flop |
Percentage |
Odds |
| 2 |
1 Pair to Trips |
4% |
1:22.5 |
| 4 |
Inside Straight |
8% |
1:11 |
| 4 |
2 Pair to Fullhouse |
8% |
1:11 |
| 8 |
Open Ended Straight |
18% |
1:4.5 |
| 9 |
4 Flush |
20% |
1:4 |
| 6 |
Trips to Fullhouse |
13.3% |
1:6.5 |
| 15 |
Straight Flush |
32% |
1:2 |
| 25 |
*Best Hold'em draw |
53% |
1:1 |
*Best draw: KhKd <Qh,Jh,Th> <Ks>
<?> 4xAs, 4x9s, 3xQs, 3xJs, 3xTs, Kc, and the 7xHearts remaining.
25 outs.
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In Hold'em, the calculation of the odds of making a hand are quite
simple. First count the possible cards that will make your hand,
outs. When you count your outs, make sure that you do not count
those cards that will give some else a better hand. So
if the Kh gives you trips but puts a possible flush on board, the Kh is
not one of your outs. Then put that number to the number of cards
remaining in the deck that will not make your hand.
So you have an opened ended straight draw and a pair, but there are 2
flush cards on the board. Let's count the outs, 4 on each
end of straight minus the cards that would put the flush cards out
is 6, plus the 2 cards that give you trips. That is total of 8
outs. Now we put that to the number of cards remaining in the deck that
does not make our hand. (47-8) or 8:39. Divide both sides by
8, (8/8:39/8)= 1:5 (well almost anyway.) If that is
still to much download a copy of the chart here and make it you desktop.
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let's look at Pot Odds. Pot Odds is simply the ration of the total
bet a player must call to the total amount of money in the pot or
"Bet":"Total Pot." So if you are in a $1/2
game and there is a bet and a raise, $4, to you and the pot has $18.50
in it, your pot odds would be: 4:18.50 or (4/4:18.5/4)=1:4.5
(approximately, 18.5 actually = 4.625.)
Here is another way that you might find
quite simple that doesn't require as much division.
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Odds is a calculation of Pot Odds that takes into account future
betting. If you win, you expect to win additional bets later in
the hand. To calculate implied odds simply add the future bets to
the appropriate values. So in our $1/2 game, you have gotten to
the turn and need one card to make your nut straight. The pot has
$8 dollars in it and you must call $2. The pot odds are 1:4 but
the draw odds are 1:4.5. You should fold, but if you make you nut
straight you expect to win at least one additional bet. So you can
add that bet to the total and the pot odds become 1:5 and makes it a
call. If you do not hit your nut straight you fold.
Caution the above example is not
a proper calculation of the pot odds if you are not drawing to the
nuts. If you are not drawing to the nuts you must also factor in
the additional bets you must put into the pot, when your hand is not the
nuts and may be beaten. So if your straight draw is not to the
nuts, you must add the $2 call this round plus the $2 bet on the next
round so your pot odds become (2+2):(8+2)=4:10 or
(4/4:10/4)=1:2.5. Your implied odds actually got worse.
This error is one of the most common in poker. If you are not
drawing to the winning hand, you should not use implied odds. Be aware
of all the possible hands on the board and what can beat yours. "If there is a pair on board, there is no nut flush."
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reason I do not like to use the probability of hitting your hand on the
turn or the river is because it requires the additional calculation of
implied odds. Let's look at the example where you have an
two pair draw with 4 outs. Your odds to making the fullhouse with
one card is about 1:11, but you have two shots so the odds all the way
to the river. is 1:5. In this situation a $2 bet to a $14 pot
would yield pot odds of 1:7 and would seem to indicate a call, but in
this situation you must consider pot odds. In addition to
the $2 bet you must expect to call and additional $2 on the turn so the
implied odds are actually 4:12 or 1:3 and you should fold. In
closing, you will have to master implied odds and double draw odds to
become an advanced player. For the beginner it is probably best
not to get involved. It is to simple to make costly
mistakes. The misuse of these two concepts account for major
leaks in many poker bankrolls. One day I'll try to add a
good explanation for the more experienced players. Since the
implied odds normally push this comparison to the fold decision.
Most players would be much better off ignoring the calculations and
playing for the single card hit. |
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